Comments on: Jarka trial: Murrieta man sentenced to life in prison without parole for murder of wife

By: Nancy Tufo

Nancy Tufo — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:01:16 +0000

Hi! I just think you should know that to condemn Jehovah’s Witnesses is not smart. Jesus said (Matthew 11:11) Truly I say to you paople, Amoong those born of women there has not been raised up a greater than John the Babtist. Greater of course from the view point of Heaven. God loves John. To speak against Jehovah’s Witnesses is to speak against John too. I could say more but I don’t think that I want to. Be careful.

By: Faye

Faye — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:30:26 +0000

Casper, you asked that you had only wish a JW would have listened when you were molested. For your sake and your life, I wish someone would have listened to you as well, it must have been extremely hard for you especially at the tender age of 13 to be ignored by your family and have to faced things alone. i was molested too, but not by a witness. i was very young and at an older age, when i was 36 a witness came to my door to talk to me and i was going thru an difficult time because of my past. anyway, long story short she listened to me a long time and helped me a lot long before we began to study. this was in 1985, and i asked questions because i wanted to know the truth. she showed me from the bible where to find my answers, not from her. JW have the truth and if Mr Jarka is guilty and chose to go against its principle of not taking a life it does not matter what is said here in this forum, Jehovah will judge him as he will judge all of us, witness and nonwitnesses, when the time comes. It will mean our lives so i hope that you will consider forgiving whatever it takes to gain your life. Time is short. I am in a very loving congregtion of people and maybe that is why your mother stays because of the love she receives from Jehovah and His congregation.

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:45:49 +0000

Casper, u wrote: “They stay, I believe, because they no longer know how to survive outside the JW relm.” – lol, that cracked me up. And I hope they DO! -lol. So let me get this straight, I would have a better chance of survival if I lived OUTSIDE the JW “relm” in a horrible, violent world that continues to go down the drain? -uh, no thx…I’ll stay right here in God’s True Organization and continue to be “brainwashed” -lol.

By: Derrick Whitt

Derrick Whitt — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:15:47 +0000

Observer had said this: “truly amazing ..first post out of the gate and it is some angry person putting a negative spin on Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Jehovah’s Witnesses clearly believe as the bible instructs.. husbands should love their wives as themselves. and should treat them as Christ does the congregation.

This subject individual obviously had no respect for himself or god’s instructions.

A narcissist as best and only out to enrich himself… this conduct in itself removes him from values of what the bible teaches and Jehovah’s Witnesses believe.

As for our JW hate monger poster that only wishes to detract by unfounded comments… nothing but a dog returning to its own vomit”

This is a typical Jehovah’s Witness response when accounts of crimes like domestic violence and pedophilia are coming out before the public. The writer must not like seeing his or her belief system shattered when these reports are coming forth. Jehovah’s Witnesses make the claim that through their Bible educational programs families and marriages are strengthened. I like to see the evidence in all of this.

It is NOT JUST A CHARACTER ISSUE; IT IS WHAT A PERSON BELIEVES AND THE MANIFESTATIONS PRESENTED in cases like this. JWs who are victims of domestic violence must now be willing to stand up to your abuser and take steps to leave the environment before one finds herself in the newspaper under the obituaries.

By: liz

liz — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:51:37 +0000

I read all this comment against the JWs but we are all human even elders and yes they are appointed by Jehovah but they are not perfect they are trying to do what is right we are all born with imperfection and they to fall short, Jesus prayed before choosing his apostles and yet Judah betrayed him and Jesus was killed, Did this mean that Jesus was not the Messiah, Gods son? that what he preached was not the truth? NO, it just means that Jehovah has given us free will and even thou at times we may have done what is right doesn’t mean we can’t fall if you read the bible their are lots of examples of servants of Jehovah that disobeyed, David was one of them he had Uriah husband of Bathsheba put in front of the battle so he would be killed so he could keep his wife and yet if you read the bible God forgave him, don’t miss understand me in no way am I defending Mr. Jarka if he did do this horrible crime he is accountable and he is paying for it in jail and he as a person who knows Jehovah will also be accountable to him, but that is for God to judge not us, as for sister Jarka she will live again what God has promise he will do. As JWs we are not perfect but the teachings are and are proven with the bible. As for Casper I feel for you what you say you went thru is horrible and I can understand your pain but blaming the organization for it is wrong first of all your mom should have taken the matter to the police as a mother I would never let anything happen to my kids and I take everything they say serious as for what you comment about the elders going to your school and to your neighbors to dig up things that doesn’t make sence they are not detectives besides you can’t blame a whole group for what a few do and where was your mother in all this? you say she is still a JW that is probably because she knows that Jehovah is not at fault or his organization. I grew up a JW kid I stopped going at 12 studied on and of but always asked what do others believe I would ask my mom and she said ask them but have them prove their believes to you with the bible and I did I asked all kinds of religions but none could prove to me with the bible most have been members of their church for years and yet couldn’t answer they kept saying ( don’t know have to go to the pastor) but yet the bible says in (John 17:3 This means everlasting life their taking in knowledge of you the only true God and of the one you sent forth, Jesus Christ.) and (Proverbs 2:4 says if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it) these are just two of thousands of bible text that we can go over, so our salvation is not up to a pastor or the elders but it’s up to us to take in that knowledge and search for it in the bible, we are all accountable for ourselves we need to investigate the bible and see if the religion we are following is true all this bashing and stories about elders and other JWs don’t prove anything about the teachings it just shows that we are imperfect just like lots where in bible times. I always considered myself as open minded, I had so many questions and only Jehovah’s organization answered them with prove not with (you have to have faith) as the other religions would tell me, Faith is something you acquire with prove and not like some comment by being brain washed this is not a cult if it was I would have never stopped going at twelve, I am now over forty I have kids that are adults some don’t go to meetings and they are not treaded bad on the contrary when they do accompany me to the meeting they are received with love my kids say that they know it’s the truth and not because they grew up in it because I didn’t go for years but because they read for themselves but we all have free will and if we choose to serve Jehovah its out of love he forces no one we all have free will and that’s why I as one of Jehovahs witneses choose to serve him because I have free will and that ables me to choose to read for myself bible truths. It saddens me to see so many negative comments but yet none with scriptural prove I pray that one day you take the time to search for the truth like you would for silver witch is real deep and then you to will see what Jehovah has promised thru his son Jesus Christ.

By: Gina

Gina — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:28:51 +0000

What does being a Jehovah Witness have to do with the brutal crime he committed? He killed his wife, probably because he wanted her out of his life.

By: Love4Jehovah

Love4Jehovah — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:02:24 +0000

This is a horrible, horrible crime. I really feel bad for our dear sister but look forward to seeing her in the new system. I have nothing to say regarding her husband but will leave that for Jehovah to handle.
For those who hate us, why are you judging us (Jehovah’s Witnesses)? Is is because we speak the truth? True, nobody is perfect in this world, we all fall short even the elders. Nobody is infallible as the bible teaches us. For those who have done vile things in the organization well that was that individual not the organization. Those who are hiding what they are doing it will be brought to the front but don’t hate the religion.

We have many examples of people who have fallen short IN THE BIBLE. We also have many examples of people who ridiculed people and were apostate IN THE BIBLE. Please speak the facts, don’t hate because we are trying to do what’s right and you want to do your own thing. I only pray that we all will get our lives together while Jehovah is patient enough to allow us to change before it’s to late. And noticed I said we because we ALL fall short of the Glory of Jehovah but must keep on so that we will be able to see our dead loved ones again alive including Sister Jarka.

It’s beautiful, one that teaches unity and peace. When you spew this hatred for us are you teaching unity and peace and if not then what is your real motive?

If you don’t like us keep it to yourself but stop trying to steer people away from life on a peaceful new world that is soon to come just because you opted out of it. We teach straight out of the bible which has been around alot longer the any of us on this post. Jehovah knows what he is doing which is giving all of us time to change and become better not bitter.

Jehovah’s organization is perfect because he’s ruling it from heaven through Jesus Christ but the people in his earthly organization are not perfect.

By: Nikola718

Nikola718 — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:37:46 +0000

Update:
Despite all of this bickering the eighty year generation still hasn’t seen Jesus and the watchtower has declared them now dead. Thank goodness for watchtower prophesy. Otherwise how else would we have known the truth behind which religion was false?

By: Casper

Casper — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:40:57 +0000

My thoughts and prayers are with all those effected by this tragedy including the murderer himself, whether that may or may not be Jarka. Those who have broke God’s law will be judged by God in the long run.
As a former Jehovah Witness, and am glad I left, I do understand completlely the remarks posted by many on here, whether I agree with them or not. The biterness, pain, and hurt caused by the Watchtower society is the TRUTH and you can not blame those who lash out against it. These people are not just fighting to defend their believes they are fighting to regain their lives that the Society in many cases so brutally stripped them of figurativley.
I was molested as a Jehovah Witness child by an elder, begged to Jehovah under the guise of the Watchtower Society endlessly for salvation, and devoted my life through baptism at the tender age of tweleve. Thinking it was best to speak to my mother, a devoted Witness, because I no longer could handle the pain I finally revealed what was happening. The congreation and elders attacked me, went to my school, talked to my neighbours and dug up any and everything they could to make it look like I had committed a disfellowshipping offence. I was disfellowshipped shortly after my 13th birthsay. I immediately lost my friends, could no longer participate in family functions ( as they were all Witness related) and was left alone in my room to deal with this. The elder that did this quickly sold everything and moved out of the country where the law of our country could not prosecute him and remained a Jehovah Witness elder there.
My parents and two of my siblings are still Jehovah Witnesses, I love them deeply. It has taken years, I am now thrity eight, to rebuild these relationships and my life. They stay, I believe, because they no longer know how to survive outside the JW relm.
So those Witnesses on here, take the time to understand where most of the resentment comes from before you throw us in the “lake of fire”, many of you like my parents are good people but trust me the “holy spirit” does not flow throughout your organization. What is really sad if you took the time to look my story is not rare in fact there are thousands of us. I urge you just once check out an Ex-Jehovah Witness support group in your area, there are many of them, and listen and see the pain many suffer losing a mother, father, bother, sister who lives a couple blocks away but remains a steadfast Witness and show a little more compassion for the suffering your organization has directly caused. Bad enough you lose a “sister” in death, try losing one knowing they are alive and well just down the street.

By: Pam

Pam — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:47:03 +0000

What does his belief have to do with what is in the man’s heart. I wonder if the comments would be the same if he were Cathloic or another faith? Just how many JW’s do you hear about in the news? But its ok for a Priest to moleste a child and cover it up..or a man with 6 wifes and 35 children living on welfare, that we pay for. No matter what his faith was he is a man that took another persons life and should pay for it, no matter what god he believes in.